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was honored. >> you know lindsey graham is ready. >> in the coming days and weerks i'm going to continue reaching out. >> he's absolutely determined to get something done. >> the gop has been tagged the party of no. >> now you have speaker boehner saying -- >> the president got his tax hikes. he got his tax hikes. the president got his tax hikes. >> there is still incentive among a lot of republicans to not cooperate with this president. >> all they really need is a hug and a lunch. >> i wish he had done more of that over the years. >> president obama is not their mom. >> where this goes, i don't know. >> there is a caucus of common sense in the coming days and coming weeks. i'm going to keep on reaching out. >> i've been relatively fair to barack obama. >> he doesn't do anything. >> it's jack what you're saying. >> he's not trying to solve the fiscal cliff. now i'm really angry. >>> president obama has just finished a working dinner with 12 republican senators, the start of an outreach campaign that will include visits with the full republican caucuses in both the house and the senate.
this fixed. get everybody in the room and you fix it. >> okay! >> is it just that easy? >> lindsey graham says that the president has called him -- >> the president had conversations with republicans and democrats. >> -- and wants to do a big budget deal. >> a new hope for a bigger bargain. >> there's a caucus of common sense out there. >> you are lying here! >> don't just sit is there and call me a liar. >> no! >> there is a caucus of common sense here. >> why are you yelling? >> okay! >> i'm not saying yes. i'm just not saying no. >> i think i know how to recycle those old bush 2000 yard signs. >> bush may actually be running. >> he is very serious about the idea of running for president. >> we can't continue to make illegal immigration an easier path than legal immigration. >> he's backing down on moderation. >> a path to citizenship, which i would support. >> and trying to prove his conservative bona fides. >> i don't see how you do it. we wrote this book last year. i have supported bo both. >> left to right, left to right, he's starting to look like mitt romney. it's not a good place
note the absence of senior defense-minded senators like john mccain and lindsey graham, in the pitter patter of applause. and today we got an earful of why. >> but somehow to allege that the united states of america, our government, would drop a drone hell fire missile on jane fonda, that is -- that brings the conversation from a serious discussion about u.s. policy to the realm of the ridiculous. >> and when john mccain wasn't placing him in the realm of the ridiculous, lindsey graham offered his fellow republicans a tour of the hinterlands of hypocrisy. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up. what are we up to here? >> a very interesting question, senator graham. very interesting indeed. let's get right to our panel now. here with me in new york is msnbc contributor ari melber, a correspondent for "the nation." and in washington msnbc political analyst david corn of "mother jones" ma
republicans including senator john mccain and lindsey graham are slamming his public protest. and members of their own party who joined him. >> the country needs more senators who care about liberty. but if mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids in their college remember dos. dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. you know. i don't even remember the harshest critics of president bush on the democratic side. they had a drone program back then. so what is it, all of a sudden, that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> kids in their college dorms. in an interview, paul hit back at some of those republican critics. >> i think they're on the wrong side of history on this one. they are of the belief that the war is everywhere. so they kind of
about. >> senators john mccain and lindsey graham's scathing response to paul's nearly 13-hour -- >> i thought it was rather insulting for the way that these gentlemen responded to this. >> your words, senator, john mccain and senator lindsey graham fighting vehemently to defend president obama's policy. it was a little disorienting. >> joining me right now is senator bernie sanders of vermont, a member of the senate budget committee. sir, good to have you here. we start with what politico is putting out as the headline. grand bargain back with a question mark. we look at what paul ryan said after lunch with the president, where i think hope is being borne from. everyone needs to be part of this conversation. we need an open debate about how best to balance the budget and expand opportunities. so, sir, outside of the lines of the continuing resolution coming out of the house side. what you month would you guesstimate that we mae get the grand bargain? >> the issue is not the grand bargain. the issue is what's in the grand bargain. when you have growing inequality, 100% of all new incom
, and then some of these senators, people like john mccain, kelly ayotte, lindsey graham, are people that are bothered by the defense cuts and sequester and might be willing to make concessions. what you hear from republicans in the house is, well, all the president has put on the table is tax increases, and that's not true, but half is tax increases, and republicans are never really going to like that. this is the group that you might convince to cut a deal with. >> although lindsey graham said, hey, we will put revenue on the table if the president is serious about entitlement reform, and that was not long ago. we just showed some tape, richard, of paul ryan entering the white house. i think that's -- i mean, look, we talked a lot yesterday about whether this is a good thing or a bad thing, whether it will amount to much. i think at the end of the day it's a win-win situation for both sides. republicans look less obstructionist. the white house looks like they are finally heeding the advice that the president needs to engage more, and the country sees the two sides talking, if not
. >> and lindsey graham calls out his own party. >> i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. >> tonight, james carville on the republican chaos on the senate floor. and i'll also tell you about an actual filibuster that matters. and why leader harry reid is to blame. >>> paul ryan visits the white house. and the president is getting ready to serve up the big three. senator bernie sanders joins me to tell the president to hold the line on earned benefits. >>> and netflix strikes gold with the political drama "house of cards." >> your life, peter, and what i know about it, you should assume there's no such thing aas a secret. >> tonight actor michael kelly is here with all the latest on his hit series. >> good to have you with us, folks. thanks for watching. last night on this program we showed you this chart from the southern poverty law center. the number of extreme militia groups in america is at an all-time high. record high. now, today everyone is lathered up and talking about how senator rand paul is so fantastic
to a group of republicans. lindsey graham, rob portman, bob corker, tom coburn and susan collins. >> i expect the president to talk to various members. frankly i wish he had done more of that over the years. we've had all of us very limited interaction with the president. he certainly doesn't have to go through me to call my members. >>> so on the international front, seven days of mourning have begun for the polarizing leader of venezuela. live pictures as people are coming on ultimate en masse. the body being moved from a military hospital where he died taking through the streets and mass crowds. people started filling the roads last night as of news came he lost his two-year battle with cancer. as required by the constitution, an election is set for 30 days from now. the white house issuing this statement, saying at this challenging time, the united states reaffirms its support for the venezuelan people and its interest in develop -- that relationship, as we all know, between chavez and the president, that was a rocky one, straight up to the end. there was no u.s. am intoes do recall there
limbaughs, but also the backlash he got from john mccain and lindsey graham, who said this isn't the type of position on national security our party should be taking. >> on the democratic side, we saw joe biden's schedule. seems to touch on all the groups you would need to touch on to come through a democratic primary. but this far out, we're in march of 2013, it seems to me that it's hillary, and that decision, and that's it. from the aides i've talked to, if she wants it, it's hers. no one can challenge her at this point. there's no barack obama coming around. >> that's why we'll probably not get an answer from her for a couple of years, which is why all the activity that we're seeing is happening on the republican side. not only was rand paul making waves, jeb bush. we saw marco rubio taking center stage giving his state of the union response to president obama. all these republicans seem to be doing little different things to at least dip their toes in the 2016 waters to prepare themself for something still three years away. >> the pressure on hillary is unbelievable. lastly, carl lev
it looks like. lindsey graham commented on putting the group together. let's listen to lindsey graham. >> how do you say no to the president of the united states who would like to have dinner with some of your colleagues? you don't. when the president asked that i get together a group, i willingly and i was honored to try to do that. where this goes, i don't know. >> see how to explain the whole thing. almost apologizing for meeting with the president. the president will meet separately with the democratic and republican caucuses in both the house and the senate. joining me right now nia-malika henderson who covers all this. and former mayor willie brown. thank you for joining us. i want to talk about the appearance of this and the reality of this, which is more important? >> it is the appearance of it. for all reasons fall beyond anything we can ever fathom, this is the kind of thing that should have been done from the first day that the president was elected. he should have been able to develop a relationship with every person holding office one on one by first name. many times you
, kelly ai yacht, lindsey graham. stoo several republicans in recent days. senator graham on tuesday described his phone call as and i'm quoting, the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i've seen since the early years of hissed. si. get that man an extra glass of his favorite reislin. a continuing resolution that led to democratic outrage on the floor. >> this is a disgraceful bill. and this process is not on the level. we have a budget that is doubling down on grinding down on the middle class. >> wall street is celebrating while the backs of poor people are been broken. this is not a rule that should pass today. we should remain snowed out. we shouldn't even be here. snow us out until we can get the right kind of balance. >> despite that clear opposition, it did pass keeping in place the sequester cuts while softening the blow for defense naturally. expected to take it up next week saying they'll oppose the measure without a vote to defund the affordable care act. i guess bitterness is always a dish best served cold. while we're on the subject of last year's leftovers, here
likely to cut a deal. among those, lindsey graham of south carolina. >> i'm very encouraged by what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i've seen since the early years of his presidencpresidency. >> graham has said he would consider increased revenue if it was coupled with changes to entitlement programs. republican leaders say they're not at all interested in discussing more taxes with the president. the tax issue derailed talks over how to derail the sequester, now administration officials say those budget cuts forced them to cancel all public tours of the white house. now more proof that d.c. can argue about anything, the "wall street journal" editorial reads in part this fits president obama's political strategy to punish eighth graders visiting from illinois instead of, say, employees of the agriculture department who will be sampling wine and sampling tasty dishes prepared by special guest chefs. critics also criticiz
republicans, including senators john mccain and lindsey graham are slamming rand's public protest and members of their own party have joined in. >> the country needs more senators who care about liberty. but if mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids in their college dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. yeah, i don't even remember the harshest critics of the -- of president bush on the democratic side. they had a drone program back then. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> "new york times" photographer caught this image yesterday of what must have been an interesting elevator ride for senators mccain and paul. >>> john brennan who's nomination to lead the cia was temporarily blocked by rand's filibuste
, lindsey graham, intra-party scold got a _#of his own. primary graham. if there was any question about just how tense it might be in the upper chamber, the "new york times" ran this photo showing paul and mccain sharing an elevator ride after the elder senator accused the kentucky sion of disservice. hash tag, awkward. stephanie, we have talked ad nauz yum at this point about the lower chamber and the raucus caucus and how difficult a job speaker john boehner has in his words getting the frogs in the wheelbarrow. but this week i think exposed some serious changes, if not a rift within the elder wing -- the elder sort of establishment wing of the republican party in the upper chamber. not just on sequester but with the rand paul talky filibuster. >> i was pleased see that picture because normally there's a democrat standing there getting a scowl. >> i've been on elevators like that myself. you know, i think that, you know, i appreciate what senator mccain and senator graham were trying to say. under no circumstances are americans at home in danger of getting shot by a drone from the u.s. go
cain and lindsey graham coming out in support of what the president has done, lindsey graham calling into question where were republicans during president bush's administration when they were using drones. joining me on set is ayman mull ha dean, you know firsthand from the work you've doane overseas, so we have the house judiciary committee, scheduled toic take up this conversation as well, certainly transparency is something that we want, but when we hear senator mccain mentioning the u.s. citizen that was killed in 2011, there was an op-ed piece in "wall street journal" "wall street journal" talking about what it means to be an enemy combatant. he was considered to be an enemy combatant, but in yemen. can a drone be used here if an enemy combatant is on american soil here. how will the conversation go? >> i think these are fundamental questions that have not been debated in the united states when it comes to applies the drone policy overseas. this is part of the criticism that many have against the united states, particularly allies like pakistan and others. the question -- the fundamental ques
near the white house. linds lindsey graham and kelly ayotte took the president up on his offer. other republicans gave the thumbs up and said, they had a good exchange of ideas. no word on the tab. but the white house said that the white house picked up the check. >>> we talked about having to establish a process to move forward and i got the sense that president obama's planning on probably doing something with a similar gathering with some dem senators. he seemed very sincere to get engaged in the process. trasie potts has more. >> reporter: part of that process that he was talking about is really setting a different atmosphere and a different tone for compromise. first of all, to let these republicans know that the president is willing to compromise and number two, to talk about some of these key issues not just the budget and of course the budget and the cuts from sequestration are a big part of where these differences lie. things like immigration and gun control and to sort of bring down the temperature between the two sides. now on the same day that was happening on capitol hill
. >> when you talk about the practical side, krystal, let me show you, james, senator lindsey graham. what he said today about president obama and how the president is still reaching out and we know all of the things graham has said. listen to this. >> he just called me. >> he did? >> yeah. i'm very encouraged about what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. maybe because of sequestration and frustration with the public, the time is right to act. he wants to do the big deal. >> so the president wants to do the big deal. he's doing the right thing according to lindsey graham. i mean, does this mean that there's a possibility that the president can work out a big bargain here or something? some kind of adjustment of compromise, james? >> well, listen. the president is always -- and he's shown himself to be willing and able to compromise. in fact, those of us on the left have been disturbed by some of the compromises that he has made. so he's always moving towards consensus. i think he's always demonstrated he's will
cain and lindsey graham, actually going after him, for his tactics in the substance of what he was doing. let's take a listen to that. >> to say that we would hit them in a cafe with a hell fire missile, first of all, no drones have hell fire missiles anywhere near. they're in yemen and afghanistan. and other places in the world. so, we've done a, i think, a disservice to a lot of americans by making them to believe that somehow they're in danger from their government. they're not. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up. what are we up to here? >> and i think mccain actually makes a good point there. rand paul by raising the spector of americans sitting in cafes being struck down by u.s. drones, it most people are not concerned about that. it seems crazy. it seems fringe. and in that way, while rand paul did spark this debate and obviously if you were on twitter last night you know people were
into the fear, physically walk into it. look at this point lindsey graham made about the republicans who joined with senator paul in that filibuster yesterday. let's listen to graham. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. you know. i don't even remember the harshest critics of president bush on the democratic side, they had a drone program back then. so what is it all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up? to my party, i'm a bit disappointed that you no longer apparently think we're at war. >> you know, this is the fascinating thing about the right wing, and people watching this show are students of it, maybe in danger of it. you have the neocon people like lindsey graham and john mccain who are ready at the snap of the fingers to go to war. that's the first solution. let's go to war. they always have one ready. then you have the very conservative old pat buchanan breed, people like rand paul who are very suspicious of our power being used for any pu
to answer some of the questions that lindsey graham and others have asked as to the rules of engagement as to targeted killings of americans. it was some of the others on the opposite end of it. we were asking for that. they still have questions about benghazi. it's going to sail through committee we expect. what about the floor vote? are we going to have a director of central intelligence by the end of the week? chris. >> well, andrea, you know, i always hesitate to predict. i'm going to go back to my first answer on when they vote. you never really know. i think we probably will. i think what senator feinstein announced this morning is there is more information given on drones and more information on the promise of more information on what happened in benghazi. that that would be enough. now, again, john mccain, republican from arizona, lindsey graham, republican from south carolina, have both said over the weekend on the sunday talk shows that they are holding out the possibility of still holding up the john brennan confirmation vote. my guess is at the end of the day they don't part
. republican senator lindsey graham says he just spoke with the president by phone. take a listen to what he said. >> i'm very encouraged by what i've seen from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i have seen since the early years of his presidency. >> i'm really sorry to repeat history, but haven't we seen this before? the president compromises. the president goes to extreme lengths and guess what happens? the sequester happens. or there's a fight other the debt ceiling, or the continuing resolution will be brutal. what's the point? >> well, you have got a good point. essentially graham is one of the folks who is saying we have to have more revenues. he said he's open to $600 billion to revenues and the president is trying to reach out and see if that can be done. the situation we're in now is paul ryan has essentially a dog ate the homework kind of budget. nobody has to take responsible for these brutal cuts that make no sense and are
, it was obviously lindsey graham and not what he was saying to chuck todd. the flip-flopping relative to the republican base, how do you see that playing? >> well, i think jeb has an opportunity here. much to ron's point on the substance, to really move the party in a different direction and off the particular pinhead it's on right now on immigration to a broader, you know, acceptance of the party of assimilation which we have always at least been historically, this idea that you are all welcome to this great land of opportunity, and i think he has a chance to carve that out. you know, don't try to out, you know, mar are mashco rubio or be more conservative than. if jeb bush is himself and is comfortable in this skin in his space as we have seen him up to this point, don't let the prospects of running for the presidency change you into something you're not. you run into the mitt romney problem, and then it's downhill from there. be himself and bring the party to your reasoning on this subject and i think, i think quite honestly people will be surprised at the response. >> ron, do you
including roy blunt, tom coburn, susan collins, bob porker, lindsey graham, and rob portman. he'll also dine tonight with 11 republican senators at the jefferson hotel and will travel to capitol hill next week to meet with caucuses in both the house and the senate. so far, the good will is being reciprocated. according to senator lindsey graham, what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue since the early days of his presidency. senator majority leader mitch mcconnell is all for daytont. >> frankly, i wish he'd done more of that over the years. we've had, all of us, very limited interaction with the president. he's certainly doesn't have to go through me to call on my members, and i'm sure he will, and i encourage him to do so. >> of course, necessity is usually the grandmother of change. despite several weeks of bully pulpit pressure, even the president acknowledged that his hands are tied unless congress decides to cooperate. >> this idea that somehow there's a secret formula or secret sauce to get speaker boehner or mitch mcconnell to say, you k
the temperature down, and it's worth noting senator lindsey graham put this list together. we have a graphic, i believe, of those who will be attending this evening. these are the senators who have been identified really as showing some sort of willingness to listen to compromise. richard burr, tom coburn, pat toomey, to name just a few of those who will be at the dinner tonight. in terms of what gets accomplished, i don't expect a deal from a grand bargain, but, look, there's no ticking time bomb. there is no stark deadline that they are trying to meet for a fiscal fight, which is really different from what we have seen in past weeks. so this really gives them the opportunity to have some type of conversation on these issues that have so starkly divided them. as you point out, it comes against the backdrop of president obama not reaching out enough to lawmakers on the hill, and also against the backdrop of house speaker john boehner saying he's not planning to negotiate with president obama moving forward. so, there is some hope this will begin to move the conversation forward. president obama
. lindsey graham offered some background yesterday afternoon. >> the president called senator mccain and myself a couple of weeks ago, and senator mccain was his opponent, as you all thou know, in 2008. i see the president reaching out. the dinner that was supposed to be quiet is sad that it makes news. >> he's right about that. graham's closest friends were on the list. graham also included republican senators who have a particular interest in the budget debate, so that included pat toomey. graham is the only senator up for re-election in 2014. miguel rodriguez was there. vice president biden, not at the dinner. maybe this is the start of a new outreach. in his first term, mr. obama's outreach to republicans was sporadic at best and though the president bristles when that's pointed out -- >> i promise you, we invite folks from congress over here all the time. and when they choose to come, i enjoy their company. sometimes they don't choose to come, and that has to do with the fact that i think they don't consider the optics useful for them politically. >> the fact of the matter i
, on this a matter of policy, on the use of force, they're probably more in the john mccain and lindsey graham camp than the rand paul camp. however, it was striking to a lot of people that the bright stars of the republican party like florida senator marco rubio and texas senator ted cruz joined rand paul in the filibuster against the obama administration's drone poll sane i think that's what really fired up folks like mccain and graham seeing some of the young stars of the republican party, the young tea party stars going on a tangent regarding national security and foreign policy and the republican party definitely isn't known for. >> let's play what rand paul -- just gave an interview this morning to glenn beck on his radio show. here's a little bit of what rand paul said regarding his critics. let's play it. >> government were comprised of angels we wouldn't need rules and so i try to make it less about president obama and more about what if some day we elect someone who wouldn't -- who would abuse this power? >> senator, there's been some criticism of your filibuster last night including from
from killing each other. on thursday mccain and lindsey graham, as you know, skewered mr. paul, particularly his filibuster. so who wins this rare old tussle? is it the old guard or the new guard? >> it is an interesting establishment gop versus this tea party gop -- >> who wins? >> you know, i think rand paul within the conservative bubble comes out looking better. now, obviously to you and me we listen to it and graham and mccain are making more sense. rand paul is fighting a good fight against a problem that does not exist, a wild hypothetical that has not happened, perhaps never will happen. part of the gop's program of like real solutions for fake problems. americans in restaurants can rest assured that they will not be droned. >> i hope jane fonda knows that. >> especially if they're not combatants against america. so they can be comfortable tonight and into the future. but like rand paul 2016 is actually looking better. is he going to win the nomination? probably not. is he going to be president? certainly not. but he can be a player in 2016 and doing that thing we've se
issues. the fact that he is saying that lindsey graham has suggested the same thing. paul ryan is sitting at home trying to figure out a way to balance the budget in ten years. >> i think it is a good thing in taking that revenue and putting it and not using it to combat the deficit. >> it soupd sounds like they ar saying let's use some of it for deficit reduction. >> that is tiny. >> i guess it is. to me, it seems like the line has been in the last month. it was the line before the revenues got passed. we can't talk about any tax some every time that is invoked in the context of nef virevenue, i only discuss it in the context of opening up the tax code of being litigated and legislated in which case nothing is going to done. >> if they can figure out a way around it, the bush tax cuts were a lowering taxes because they doubled them on january 1st. if there was a way to make them about combatting the deficit and saying this is a tax hike, i feel like they could be baited into a tax hike. if it is plausible to get more revenue it is going to have to be in the context of calling it somethin
blasted for the filibuster by john mccain and sin lindsey graham for using scare tactics. >> so somehow allege or infer that the president of the united states is going to kill somebody like jane fonda or someone who disagrees with the policies is a stretch of imagination which is frankly ridiculous. ridiculous. >> the first ads for the first in the nation 2016 iowa presidential kau kigss are on the air. the patriot superpac is running the spots against virginia's republican governor bob mcdonnell for raising taxes. >>> a new book about hillary clinton calmed "the secretary" says the secret to her globe trotting stamina is hot peppers. >>> fashion designer vivian westwood is criticizing the first lady for what she wears. she calls michelle obama a nice looking woman but claims her clothes don't suit her. she calls the first lady's clothes, quote, dreadful. how can that be? >>> the white house says despite the extreme -- eggstreme budget cuts from the sequester the kids will not be disappointed. the annual easter egg roll will be held. the people's house will hold the annual extravaganza
confirmed the dinner will be at a d.c. area hotel and will include john mccain, lindsey graham and others. the president will go have lunch with mitch mcconnell. >> i expect the president to talk to various members. i wish he had done more than that over the years. all of us very limited interaction with the president and he is certainly doesn't have to go through me to recall my members. >> democratic congresswoman maxine waters from california, the top-ranking democrat. thank you for your time. i top the get your reaction to rand paul and the filibuster we are watching play out there. >> obstructionists. i know that this kind of trying to stop the president from having the people that he would like to carry out the various jobs and these agencies is absolutely li dickulous. this director is very much needed. for him to commit himself to filibustering for as long as it takes is a kind of destructive action that needs to stop in the congress of the united states of america. >> moving forward to the president having dinner tonight, weather permitting as we understand, what do you make of t
. on the other side, senators john mccain and lindsey graham who asked him to step it back a bit. here's senator mccain thursday. take a listen. >> if mr. paul wants to be taken seriously, he needs to do more than pull political stunts that fire up impressionable libertarian kids in their college dorms. he needs to know what he's talking about. >> let's introduce. maureen is a staff writer at salon.com. buzz feeds political editor and matt welch, editor in chief at reason magazine. and, matt, we'll start with you. it was a big week for your movement, so to speak. in fact, you couldn't contain yourself over at reason magazine. brian doherty said, "this was a very big deal. in 36 hours the republican party has completely changed." how so? >> that we're having this conversation to begin with. if you went to the 2004 national convention in new york city and listen to zell miller say it wasn't the journalist who brought us freedom of speech, it was the soldier. there was not a rand paul voice at that table at all. 2008, john mccain as the nominee. he's the most aggressively pro interventionist candid
. >> unless you talk to john mccain or lindsey graham. >> with some exceptions. >> let's pivot to the other big story this week. i'm sure you all saw governor romney give his first interview. take a listen to just a snippet from that interview. >> a long and blistering primary where people are attacking one another and where the attacks are sometimes not on the mark but are creating an unfavorable impression, those things are not helpful. >> and he also went on to talk about the debates, those things are not helpful. kind of an understatement there, to say the least. >> says the man who eviscerated any number of candidates along the way. you ask newt gingrich how he feels about how those primaries went. ask rick perihow it was to stand next to mitt romney when he was in full attack mowed. somebody's gonna say something bad about you. it happens. >> he didn't sound like he was totally over the loss yesterday. >> no, he sounded really disappointed. he said it kills me that i'm not in the white house to work on fixing the country's problems. i believe that. i believe that he genuinely thinks i
republicans to dinner tonight, and he spoke with lindsey graham yesterday. here's what graham had to say. >> i'm very encouraged by what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i have seen since the early years of his presidency. >> you know, critics have said what took so long for him to meet with lawmakers to try to hammer out a deal? is that fair? >> i do think it's fair. i have a big question, if we knew the sequester was coming for lo this many months, and if we thought there was some kind of a group of sensible caucuses the president has called t. the common-sense caucus, that he could meet with, why did we twiddle our thumbs under the sequester hit? i do think -- but i do think two things. first of all, it is encouraging that the president is doing this. i also thing what's particularly encouraging is there are some cracks in the antitask absolutely no additional taxes beyond what we agreed to in january, republican position.
cain and lindsey graham on the floor. two ways to interpret it. one, you can interpret it as their reasserting control over what people think about the issues. and the other is, they're actually kind of threatened. we're going to take a break and we'll come back. graham and paul on the floor. [ watch ticking ] [ engine revs ] come in. ♪ got the coffee. that was fast. we're outta here. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. exciting and would always come max and pto my rescue. bookstore but as time passed, i started to notice max just wasn't himself. and i knew he'd feel better if he lost a little weight. so i switched to purina cat chow healthy weight formula. i just fed the recommended amount... and they both loved the taste. after a few months max's "special powers" returned... and i got my hero back. purina cat chow healthy weight. a talking car. but i'll tell you
cain lindsey graham faction. you're going to see more of that happen as you move toward 2016. >> look at your latest perry on politics, the title of your article, why obama's new charm offensive could work. thursday lunch, tell me do you think this is going to work? >> this could work. and here's why. on the budget deficit, there's a group of republicans, bob corker of tennessee, lindsey graham of south carolina who want to reap some big bipartisan reduction deal that has tax increases and also spending cuts in it. and the president is trying to engage that group. try to work around. he knows mitchell mcconnell probably doesn't want to help him because of the primary. but the goal of the president is to work with republicans, about 12 republicans. if they can get something drawn together, they can reach a deal, he's hoping house republicans will allow it to come to the floor and be voted on. i think that could be a good, smart strategy. the president has tried a lot. he's watched super bowl with the republicans, had them over to his house, watched movies with them, played basketball with them
because right now there's no discretion. mitch mcconnell's filibuster -- and john mccain and lindsey graham were screaming for these because they were saying this is a national security emergency. at least give the executive more discretion. mitch mcconnell himself stopped both those bills along with the democratic bill. harry reid said i'll give you two republican bills if you'll just let us vote on this one democratic replace bill. i think that the republican party has allowed the rand paul wing to trump the national security wing. absolutely. >> there's another piece to that, though. the continuing resolution is something that sounds like everybody has agreed not to fight over. in large part, i think from the right because it's going to give the pentagon more leeway to decide where these cuts happen, and so everybody can agree, okay, republicans get what they want. the president doesn't want to renegotiate or relitigate another budget fight three weeks after this one. i just doubt, you know -- i doubt that we're going to actually see any movement on this at all before 2014. i mean
years. you saw him have john mccain and lindsey graham in for a private conversation this week. to me that was a very good sign. it's very important that they keep talking to each other and maybe on some issues like immigration they can make some progress. >> and, eugene, politically speaking the white house already starting to lay plans for what's going to happen in 2014. they need 17 seats to take control. that's a tall order. it would have to be clinton-like in terms of its achievement. >> it's a very tall order, particularly after redistricting has made a lot of safe districts for the republican majority. it's very difficult to draw a map and look at it and see how they pick up those 17 seats. then again, we're getting used to some pretty big swings in the house. >> no doubt. >> and not all anticipated. >> thank you. >> it happens. >> thank you. >> thank you, gene robinson. thank you, jonathan alter. >>> up next, it's happened yet again, the right wing falls for another story without checking into whether it's true. this is "hardball," the place for politics. but we can still help
cain and lindsey graham basically affirming the obama administration's position on drones, what it tells me is there's very little question in my mind that what happened yesterday was a very -- which he has been as open as anyone. i'm less convinced this was a great thing for the republican party, more broadly. you know, i think it gets them on questionable ground on an issue in terms of public opinion and an issue that the vast majority of the public isn't interested in. definitely a big moment for rand paul, and where mccain and grah graham. >> against president obama -- kristen welker. rand paul has not given in yet on the 30 hours of debate. it could be saturday morning unless he is pressured to give in. >> underscoring the point. they did write a letter to rand paul answering what seems to be his xheef concern, which is -- >> it's possible that is holding that process up. -- they have last night with republican lawmakers, and they say that the timing is important, andrea, because it came at a time when there's not a countdown clock running. so, in essence, they believe that this is a p
-- >> lindsey graham appeared to give wriggle room with revenue or reform to the tax code. >> he did. and then speaker boehner does the opposite and so the challenge here is, who are you negotiating with? i think part of the smart strategy in terms of the white house and what they're doing is, listen, if we can't negotiate with the leadership and it's clearly not been very productive, let's try to negotiate with the rank and file members and see where there's common ground and then build momentum from the bottom up on the leaders. >> april, real quick. i want to read what john dickerson of "slate" and saying early in his first term, he, meaning the president, reached out to senators grassley, snowe, collins and specter in the negotiations and tried a back room deal to secure the support of nebraska senator ben nelson. while obama may not be very good at trying to work congress, he may only have done it in fits and starts but you can't say he hasn't tried. so that's the focus of trying with republicans. has he done the same with democrats, april? >> democrats are saying that they are
't an issue, and john mccain and lindsey graham were among those that took him to task on the floor. really sort of teaching the new kid some lessons, some would say. >> that's what you do. you try to say, you know, i wish -- they always say how do you break up a filibuster? i said bring a cot. nobody would help him, and you do irritate your colleagues when you do that. you keep them up late at night, you know, and then you need some colleagues to come, and they won't come. anyway, there are fewer of those people percentage-wise in the senate than there are in the house where you have 80 people that didn't come there to limit government. they came there to stop it, and that's what they have to deal with over there, and i think he has them corralled in pretty well now. he is saying, you know, no spending cuts, but you can't tax your way out of this baby. you can't cut spending your way out of this baby. you can't grow your way out. you have to have a blend, and i think that's what they're working on, and i see that. >> what do you think of at least rand paul was an old-fashioned real fist fi
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